Daufuskie Low Country Bourbon!

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Welcome to the Whiskey Chasers, where we talk about our passion for whiskey and its history, either amongst ourselves or while interviewing distilleries. All while enjoying a glass. I'm Steve. I'm Nick. And I'm Chris. Please enjoy responsibly while enjoying this week's episode of The Whiskey Chasers.

SPEAKER_03 0:28

So yeah, I figured we'd go with this one. Yeah. Cornell and Deal. Another Cornell blockade runner. Blockade Runner by Cornell and Deal. Okay. Because we did that one time before, but then the episode got eaten on Nick's computer or whatever. So it's a navy, navy Cavendish crumble cake, which wow, that sounds awesome. It does sound awesome. And then hand stove Red Virginia, Golden Virginia. But here's the big thing. They soak it in a premium rum, which I'm not sure what that is. Premium rum. It's a premium rum for seven days. And Cornell and Dio loves to soak rum stuff in rum for like seven days. Because I think I think even the beast that just came out, we did. That was seven days. But this one was from 2017. Yeah, 2017. So it had some age on it. Has some age on it. So I figure we dip back into this. Yeah. And I think it'll go good with the island whiskey.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

Yeah. Yeah. So for this bottle, we're doing defusky.

SPEAKER_03 1:24

Defusky.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Defusky bourbon. Uh which is a lowland bourbon. Low lowland. I think is what they call it. Like a low can't like a low country boil. Yeah. Lowland boil. A low country bourbon. Low country boil. So it's from South Carolina, uh, off of Defusky Island.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

And we we looked it up. If you're wondering, it's Defusky. It is Defusky. With an emphasis on the second defusky.

unknown 1:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

We had to look it up because it is spelled pretty weird. Now, this bottle I have not had.

SPEAKER_03 1:55

Yes, that is correct.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

And Chris have both had it. Although I remember nothing about it. You really liked it. Did I? Oh, very good. Everyone has told me that this is a very good bottle. I'm coming into this with a very big bias, saying that this is gonna be a shit bottle. Why do you think it's gonna be a shit bottle? So I'm excited to be proven wrong because this is a rum distillery. Wait, this is working perfectly with the magic. It's working up perfectly about that. All these guys do is rum. Like that is their primary thing. It's gonna make sense for like the ocean. Absolutely for islands. When did they get started really well? Uh 2013. When did their bourbon start? Bourbon didn't start until well, sometime after 2016. I don't know exactly when. Some point between 2016 and 2025. 2024.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

So between the two of those. When Mary and I went in 2018, no, 20, maybe it was 2016. 2016, 2017, we went to Hilton Head. Couldn't find a single distillery there.

unknown 2:57

No.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

We then I don't think they didn't, they didn't have it.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

We know we were we then we went a did we go with Bob and Rosemary's One Big Family at one time? Or maybe it was just Mary. There was a time where Mary went and tried.

SPEAKER_03 3:14

Did you guys ever go by yourselves?

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Yeah, we went in 2017, maybe by ourselves, but we never went together. I think everyone but me went one other time. Yeah. And I tried looking for distilleries in Hilton Head or around South Carolina that did whiskey. Couldn't find a single thing. Now I think Charles didn't even have distilleries now. I think no one did it was rum and vodka, no one did any kind of whiskey.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

And we tried looking for stuff. There was only rum. That's the what you're talking about. Yeah. Couldn't find a single thing.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

That must have been pre-2016. Oh, I'm sorry. It came out in 2019. That's when this bottle came out. That's when the bourbon started. 2019. That makes sense. So when I was doing research for this, trying to find out anything about the owner of this place, and the owner's name is uh Tony Chase. Tony Danza. Tony Chase. Tony Chase sounds like a fake name. It does sound like a fake name. When he started it, which he started it like he lives on the island. On Hilton or on this.

SPEAKER_03 4:16

So he's got like two neighbors. No, Steve, it's Defusky. Defusky. We always want to say Defusky, but it's Defusky.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

Defusky.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Defusky.

SPEAKER_02 4:25

On the island full time, and there's not very many people that live on the island. Because the island's like 2.5 miles wide. It's incredibly small. It's a very small island. He's a retired pharmacist. And so he was a pharmacist for a long time, retired, moved to the island. He got into like another version. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Another version of pharmacy.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Another version of pharmacy. Another version of pharmacy. And got real into the realms because of course he would. You're on an island. That makes perfect sense. Uh in 2016. I would kind of be disappointed if you didn't do that. Exactly. Yeah. In 2016, I found an article. And at that time, he was just starting on a vodka. And he there was no interest in doing a whiskey. It was actually like pretty anti-wiskey in the article I was reading about.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

They were like, Are you gonna do whiskey? And he was like, Defusky, you said.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

But he did meet up with another guy that is taking over the place. So taking over or like taking over. A guy named Jeremy Quinn. Uh yeah, Jeremy Quinn. What is it with these names? I know, right? These are these are pretty islands.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Jeremy Quinn, the Eskimo. Remember that song?

SPEAKER_02 5:40

Everybody's gonna he was hired in 2021 and became the master distiller, and he is the successor of the business. So he will be he will be taking over the business, and Tony is gonna be be backing off a little bit. But all they do really is rum and then did a little bit of vodka, and now they have a bourbon. And so in my head, this is gonna be an afterthought bottle, and it's gonna be it's the only one, and it's gonna be a whatever bottle. But I haven't tried it yet. Is rum that much? Is it rum that much beer to make?

SPEAKER_03 6:13

Yeah, because just sugar, right? It's just sugar, just sugar cane. But they still they age the crap out of rum, right? No, they don't can, but I've had some rum that was aged to like but white rum is like 20-year-old rum for like 40 bucks. I'm like, well, this is ridiculous, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

White rum is unaged, that's pretty common.

SPEAKER_03 6:32

Then you start getting into like slightly aged. When you get white rum, you're getting flavored stuff, like Bacardi green apple.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Okay, did you know that tequila is all aged?

SPEAKER_03 6:43

Well, it pretty much in the white stuff, it kisses the barrel. Well, you got it, well, okay, aged for what, two hours? So here's the same.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

Well, with that in mind, with that in mind, that could be the same for rum. But rum is dark as crud.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

There's dark rum and there's white rum. Well, yeah, the white. I'm talking about the dark rum.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

That's more molasses.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Well, it's got age on it, you know. Some do. Gotta put that stuff back. So I'm guessing it's easier to make, but then you just gotta be with be patient with it. Maybe people drink rum like it's going out of style. Like some people drink it.

SPEAKER_02 7:18

Rum's really popular. For me, I I haven't messed around with two main spirits. Like, I am pretty much whiskey only. Uh, vodka is a nothing to me. Vodka is just gin is the old world. Yeah, gin.

SPEAKER_03 7:32

I like. I've I have uh gin's the other one that I've gotten into. You gotta appreciate gin, like a like a fine painting.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Right.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

But some history behind that.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

Tequila, rum, those kind of things.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

Tequila is so good. I know very little about it, and I want to know more about it, but I just haven't spent the time to get to know tequila. We started appreciating me and Nick started appreciating rum when we got our hands on some specialized uh rum. Uh some of it was Scotch, Scotch Forward, um, Diplomatico. But we also got our hands on some like never like you remember when we were doing the um not the plug 'em or anything, but I guess I'll I will plug I don't know the name. Flavir? Flavair, yeah, flavor or whatever the hell is it? Um we were doing that for a minute, and uh we did some rum. You remember this? And they they'd send you things that like there's not a lot of, and like different things to try and whatnot. And we did some rum. And we did get some Scotch-esque rum and some different rums, and they were there's some dark rum. I mean, we think dark cigars, right? Like a super Maduro Steve, you know what I'm talking about? Like a super dark cigar, right? Right, yeah, that flavors like almost too much to take. They have rums like that. Okay, which I mean, you know, sign me up, right?

SPEAKER_01 8:48

You know what I mean? So there's a company called Foursquare Rolling Fork, and there's another one.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

When I hear Foursquare, I always think of the game? No, I think of uh because I've seen that a bunch, but I think of FourGate and there's a Foursquare pipe tobacco.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

So Foursquare is all rum, but it's all aged, like extra like 16, 18-year-old stuff. That is it tastes like bourbon. It's fantastic. Rolling Fork, they do a lot of uh older blends of different rums. So Barbados. So within rums, you've got like Jamaican Barbados, um and a few other tropical islands that do different styles of rum. And then even within that, American companies will bring that rum over and then finish it in like Ambrana wood, or they'll age it or finish it in X rye or X bourbon barrels.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Well, and rum is very similar to um brandy. In the sense of like, well, they have like extra aged and extra old and NX, you know, the the at least the way that they um put the aged kind of thing on there. Because you have brandy that what's it's like XO and I can't remember, it's like it's old, old pale or something like that, and extra old or I can't I can't remember the off the top of my head, but they I've seen that on rum. Thinking like, is this like and they do do some rum with like cognac and whatnot or or brandy, but I've seen that just on rum.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Rum can get up there, rum can get super fancy, but you gotta be like a rum drinker to really go after those or find them.

SPEAKER_03 10:33

But I feel like even their like super high-end rums, they've always been pretty affordable.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Foursquare gets up there like 100 and some odd bucks.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

Yeah, but if you were to take any other spirit and say it's got 28 years of age, and you're like for $100, $200, like what? What? No, like you know what I mean? But rum, you get that. Yeah, you get it. I mean, hell, even brandy, you get something with you know 29 years of age or something. It's gonna be behind the counter, and it's like a lot of money, like like 800 bucks a bottle or something. Yeah, it can get crazy expensive, but rum, I feel like is always like for what you're getting, based on like the stats, yeah, yeah, cheap. So I'm like, it's gotta be damn easy to make, you know what I mean, or whatever. And they make it out of different things, too, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:20

Usually it's sugar of some sort, so either molasses, um sugar cane. You can have uh, I think these guys do a lot with Demorara sugar, and so yeah, it's usually it's a it's a sugar base of of some sort, but it's variations of what that sugar can be. Did you get a poor Chris? Uh no.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

Oh, well, here. Nope. Steve's hoarding it again. I have got a lot.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

I thought you guys already got yours.

SPEAKER_03 11:47

No, no. I'm I'm over here trying to get my lighter to work. We've been ch chatting. Chitty chatting. Chitty chitty bang bang. Great movie. Dick Van Dyke. Dick Van Dyke. Only man in the history of the world that will ever be able to name like both both like two of like kind of the no-no words.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:04

And it's the dude's name. Like, wow.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

It's kind of cool, right? Yeah, chitty chitty bang bang, I think might be better than Mary Poppins to me. I really like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

I will be honest, I don't know that I've ever seen either. What?

SPEAKER_02 12:17

Either one, Mary Poppins or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? Get out of there. Wow, all right. Well, culture, I think. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

I'm not gonna judge, but like right. A little rough, really. You know, I will say though, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, just to get on a concrete tangent here, like it is underrated, but if you want if you watch it as an adult, yeah, I have, and it's a little rough.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

Yeah, there's some weird things going on. The child catcher or whatever is freaking creepy, man. He is a good villain.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

Lollipops, gum grow or something, all free today. Like, it's like, what the hell? And like, because here's what's weird about this. Weird for sure. In the moment, like they they they call this guy to get the kids, right? This guy was like a pro. He had been getting the kids. Yeah, I mean, like this guy, this was not his first rodeo. No, and I mean, like, just beyond, like, as an adult watching that, I'm like, that guy needs to be put down. Like, like, somebody needs to put that guy down. He has some ill intention, yeah. Very interesting. Yeah. Uh, we were watching that as an adult. It's it's different, but it is good, it is good. Yeah, I mean, underrated. Yeah, I like grandpa in that movie, the the the old guy. You gotta like grandpa. Yeah, I like him a lot better than the grandparents and Charlie uh Willy Wonka. Holy freaking cow. Grandpa Joe, all of a sudden you can get out of bed and yourself, dude. She's been have you see mom's been scrubbing her fingers to the freaking bone, and you're over there like smoking pipes once a day and and sitting on your fat ass, like all of a sudden, oh, he's got a golden ticket. I can jump around and dance. Where the hell did that come from? Anyway, back to the defusky.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Back to defusky. I don't know the mash bell, but I do know it's a high corn and low rye, and it's a three-grain.

SPEAKER_01 13:59

I was gonna say that I feel like that's from what I read was like the the supposed like no percentage, just high, high this, low that.

SPEAKER_02 14:09

Yeah, has a low, very low rye content, is a three-grain, and tie in corn. Also, uh, I have taken a sip of this, also, it's cast strength, which is another thing that's really uh helping them out, I think. Because I didn't know that. Oh, 116 proof, is that right? Yeah, 116. So uh definitely out there a little bit, which is nice. Also, probably not theirs. If I look if I look at the back of that, it says aged and bottled aged and bottled. It does not say produced. Well, that kind of changes things, that changes things because if they're not making it, that's actually a plus to me.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

Let's be honest, how much room do they have to make that? Right, yeah, they'd have to kick another neighbor off. Does that mean that they're an unspecified, they're sourcing from an unspecified location? Most likely, and not being upfront about the source to begin with.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Two strikes that kind of means that's kind of aggravating if that's the case.

SPEAKER_03 15:10

But apparently I've drank this before. Yeah, uh, but I haven't had any yet. But two strikes. But flavor-wise, be honest, are you it's pretty good? You know, are you sourcing? Fine. Where from? Right. I even don't, I'm even getting more lax with that. Like, okay, you don't want to say where from, okay, but at least put on there that it's sourced.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Right. Yeah. And why you're sourcing and hiding. It's very much hidden if it is.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

If it is, but if it is, it's if it's not uh if it's not anywhere on there uh made here there or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

It does say made at uh uh on the island or whatever, but but also okay, let's put this in a perspective.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

I'm not trying to defend them necessarily as he puts up a shield. But if if I'm a rum company on an island, that that's what we do, that's what we know, that's what we go for, would it benefit me to say that I distill bourbon, or would that hinder me?

SPEAKER_03 16:06

But here's my question how do we know they're making the rum?

SPEAKER_02 16:09

I mean, they do have a distillery and stuff, and I think I think that's kind of what their main that's their main game.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

I mean, but you know what I mean? It kind of calls everything into question.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

So did they release this in 2019 or start distilling in 2019? Did they this was released or 2019 in 2019? Let me take a sip. And they started in 20 uh 2013. 2013.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

In 2016, they said no go on whiskeys.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Okay, so in 2016, so this was not the idea in 2016. How old is this guy? Right. I don't know. Because if we're talking to four-year-old, then this isn't theirs. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

Because if they were against it in 2019, it doesn't have uh it doesn't have uh an age statement on it. It tastes like it's got some age to it. Yeah, but it does taste. You know, it actually has some good flavors to it.

SPEAKER_03 16:54

It actually is got some good flavors to it. And here's the thing it's got some small batch batch esque or uh small distillery-esque qualities to it. So if they are sourcing it's gotta be local, it's not from it's not from MCO, major player. This has got some small bet, small batch, small distillery type of which I appreciate. Yeah, this it, I mean, like if you would have told me this they were making this, I'd say absolutely they're making this. Kind of now I'm kind of like, how are they not making this? Because it very it tastes very small in a good way, and they are aging it on the island.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

So that means that if they are sourcing it, then that means they're sourcing it and bringing it to the island and aging it there.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

That's so much work to bring it to the island, exactly. Yeah, like we're not talking like we're trucking it to another state, we're bringing it to an island, like yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:46

I mean, it's right there, aged and bottled by. So I don't know, but but why wouldn't it say distilled?

SPEAKER_02 17:53

I will say though, the aging is pretty important to me on this one because if it's at that location and all then you have the sea breeze, it does change things and the temperature, the temperature and all that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so regardless of whether or not they actually make it, they do take the time.

SPEAKER_03 18:13

They really don't put much on the bottle, do they?

SPEAKER_02 18:16

These guys are like I said, this is very much a rum company, and this bottle, I don't feel gets a lot of attention from them.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

When did the the new guy come in that's gonna take over? 2021.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

I wonder if this is his puppy. The thing is, this is this is small badge. I mean, this is 2019 that this came out, so it was before him.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

But I wonder if this is like his like he's gonna take over for this reason.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

He became the master distiller in 2021.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

That doesn't mean he wasn't working for it before then. Wherever they're getting this from, though, this is pretty. I mean, it's it's got this is batch number six, bottle number sixty eight. Batch number six. So it's pretty small, pretty small, pretty small. I can't remember. Did you guys say this had anything to do with the rum or not? It's no, it's not like finished. So it's just a mental thing that I'm getting rum. Are you getting rum, or is this a mental thing? It's kind of digestive. It is sweet. We're getting rum from the tobacco a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

It is a and it's a high though.

SPEAKER_03 19:15

It's sweet. So it is a sweet bottle. It's like on the lip on your lips, it's kind of got that kind of sugary sweet, sugary kind of thing going on, like a uh bananas foster.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

Okay, so let's let's put this into perspective. This was released in 2019, right, Steve? They are on batch number six. They only do one a year, they only do one a year.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Well, did you get this this year?

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Yeah, okay. Mary got it this year. So if this is if they do that, it's one a year with batch six, then could this be there?

SPEAKER_03 19:48

I it absolutely could be. I just feel like it's not. They'd put it on, but I I agree with Steve. I almost think they'd be better off saying we get this from so and so, but we age it on the island. Yeah, because to me, that's the big thing.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

That's the important thing with this particular bottle. I mean, I really don't care. Like I said, it's for me, it's actually a little bit of a benefit if they don't make it.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

I wouldn't even care if they said we partnered with a local distillery to bring this to the island of Defusky and we age it. And like, I'm fine with that. Even keep it known, but we partner with like somebody, where is this being made? What state is this being made in? You know what I mean? Like, kind of a thing. Like, give me something and be honest, you're not making it. If you're not making it, you're not making it.

SPEAKER_01 20:33

Could Jimmy Redd be making this for them?

SPEAKER_02 20:35

That's right, because that is in South Carolina, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

And it is sweeter, it is sweeter, and it's a high corn. It's a high corn, yep.

SPEAKER_03 20:42

So totally 100% could just put it on the dang bottle.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

I get that. I get that.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

You don't have to put the name. We partnered with a local distillery, or we or or something, but we bottled, but we, you know, age it and bottle it on the island. I'm fine with that. I'm totally fine with that.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

I would love so I got excited about this bottle. A Mary picked it up. That's not why I got excited. But the lady at the liquor store said, This is the last bottle we have of this, it's very limited. Release, it's made on the island here, on an island here in South Carolina. I assumed that meant that's theirs. I got excited for that aspect because I want to see, unlike you, Steve, I want to see a rum distillery do bourbon.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

I don't mind a rum distillery doing a bourbon, but if this is the only one and that's kind of like this, it's very much an afterthought bottle. So, if to me, if if it's a rum company who would like to get in the whiskey game, I'm on board with that.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

I would love for them to do one off, a one off bottle each year, but somehow utilize their finish in their rum bottles barrels. So I like it. I like the utilization of the rums. Yeah, I agree with that. Because that screams island, that screams beach, that and pair it with. Pirate ocean pair it with a bourbon and you've got something that no one else has.

SPEAKER_03 22:04

Are you saying so far, Steve, that you feel like this is an afterthought bottle?

SPEAKER_02 22:09

I think this is an afterthought bottle.

SPEAKER_03 22:10

Even tasting it the way it is.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

But it it is quite good though. It's quality. This is a quality bottle. And so when I say afterthought bottle, what I mean, I mean that in their market in a marketing sense.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

They're like, let's just put it out there and see if we can let let's throw some what's that expression where you throw crap on the wall and see some sticks.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Yeah, yeah. But because like they don't the like their website and stuff, like there's very little marketing involved in this bottle. They are they're marketing towards their route.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

This is a a Widow Jane bottle, is what you're talking about. And I I I feel like it drinks better than a widow Jane bottle for sure. It's got some quality to it, yeah. But I get what you're saying that this could be very well, like let's just see if something sticks. And and and usually what you get with that is double the price of what it's actually worth. Right now, this tastes like quality, which again put it on the bottle then, because I think this is something to be proud of. It's good, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

I'm I'm a little bit mad now because it is so quality, it is good, and it's and I'm a little mad at the company for not putting their backs into it. Like, I want to see some effort behind like the marketing end of it. I mean, but this is what the fusky what defuski.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Have we talked about the bottle yet? Because that is a really interesting color purple. I love it, and it's actually the manliest purple I've seen.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

It's a pretty good purple, the like crab or whatever on there is kind of cool.

SPEAKER_03 23:27

Yeah, um, the type is is very like yeah, you got like regular type, and then you have almost like a like a brush stroke mix with it. What's this? Do you see this? What is that a on the side? Is that a book? Is that a like two books standing up?

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Is that it goes across this back too? I don't know if it's just like lines, like like the paint dripping, like lines like as a as an aesthetic or what it looks like the outline of two books on a shelf.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

I'm not sure what it is, but it's a for people like trying to picture it, it's just a very non-purple purple. I don't know how else to describe that. It's it's it's the closest thing to uh uh it's the manliest purple I've ever seen. If indigo was more of a purple, yeah, a purpley indigo, yeah. It's because it's not blue and it's not red, right? But it's not purple. It's it's something interesting. Like you could, yeah, you could um you could have that purple and not worry about it. It's cool, it's cool, and it's interesting that everything's purple except I mean, even the writing, yeah, the writing other than the crabski and uh the little tree there, everything else is like purple. It's a cool looking bottle. It looks it looks great, it it looks like it's got promise.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

I'm I'm hung up on the whole not theirs kind of I think for me the marketing falls sort of short, but the liquid's really good. It's good. So like that's that's the thing, which is different than normal. Usually we have really good marketing with some bad liquid. This time we have not very good marketing with some pretty good liquid.

SPEAKER_03 25:01

I wouldn't be surprised, Nick, if you didn't hit this on the freaking head. Like, because this actually kind of tastes like the Jimmy Red? And there's no we don't know the mash bill on this, right? Correct. This tastes kind of high corn, which would also lend me to believe and the red corn, it kind of has that flavor going on because it's a deep the flavor, it's a deep flavor, and I remember equating this same type of flavor to when we did the Jimmy Red. I think it could be, and it would make sense because it would be easier for them to transport and stuff. Oh, a thousand percent, yeah. But then just put on there that they partner with a local distiller and call it call it a day, you know. I'm totally fine with that. Like, I think that's what they're doing. I think they're hey, can we get some of that stuff? And Jimmy Red's like, Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 25:48

Go for it.

SPEAKER_03 25:48

And they bought it in surplus and it's just been sitting on the island, and like, yeah, we aged it here. Sure did. Whether they aged it for two days or two years, I don't know, but it was aged somewhere, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Yeah, and so yeah, this is uh this is a conundrum of a bottle because of that, just because of you know, kind of some unsureness on it. But if we set the marketing and stuff aside and just concentrate in the liquid, it's pretty good, it's 116 proof, it's very like as we said, it's the flavor's pretty deep, right? Like it's not thin by any means, it's a pretty deep flavor, and it's very friendly for almost 120 proof, you know. So it's really it's really sweet. Like I said, when it comes to the mashable, we do know it's a high corn and we know it's a very low rye. And the other thing in there is probably a bar barley. It could be a wheat, but one or the other.

SPEAKER_03 26:36

Now, with this tobacco, Steve, if you really take your time and you sip it and you let it linger in the back of your palate a little bit, maybe even retrohale through your nose and stuff, you do pick up quite a bit of rum. Yeah, I agree. And uh again, going back to like the fact that Cornell and Deal, like, how are they doing this? Where uh oh, we there's other tobaccos out there that will soak something in rum or whatever, and you it it does it doesn't translate to flavor in the like the actual taste. This does, and this actually is, and I think the first time we tried it, I never said this, but this is an island tobacco, like holy cow.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

Yeah, the the rum finish really does come through and it burns really smoothly and lightly, but it has like that, yeah, like it it's a it's a seaside kind of tobacco, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:27

With with with plenty of real tobacco that gives you more than enough to chew on because it it doesn't, it's not like junk tobacco with like with a rum finish, you know what I mean? Like it's the tobacco on its own is so high quality that the rum is just playing with it. I just what's weird is they mark marketed this blockade runner, it's got this weird like label, it's kind of drab, it's black and white.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

There's like a big like a military ship sort of thing.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Yeah. They could have just as easily thrown this into like a tropical kind of a marketing, right? With like different, like like lots of greens and reds and purples and yellows and oranges, you know what I mean? Like they could have thrown like a like some sort of uh you know, sea creature on that, and and or or you know, island creature, or hell, they could have even gone like tropical, like a toucan and it would work, you know what I mean? But it would that would make more sense than that. It's so depressing looking.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

It is, it's very, and I don't know if it's because it's a navy cavern dish.

SPEAKER_03 28:32

So they kind of lean in the navy, maybe they're yeah, leaning on that, but but yeah, I think they show you on the island. But there's other ocean spots, you know what I mean? Like you don't have to just because it's a navy uh navy cut or whatever, uh but uh navy flake or whatever. But I think that they kind of missed out on the marketing because I've had those 10, and I have another one. I've bought those a long time ago. What back in 2017, based on the reviews and based on like the way it uh the description is. And I think they sat on the shelf so long because if you look at that, does that look like anything worth popping?

SPEAKER_02 29:07

No, it's very drab, like it really doesn't look like anything special. No, the the ship that's on it is like an old military military style, the ship. Okay, what'd you think? I said the ship. I heard shit on the buttons that's on it, though.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

The shit on the buttons that's it, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_03 29:25

The ship paw. I mean, what do you think, Nick? Do you agree? Look at that label.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

It's nothing I can see from here, and what I can tell you is it's nothing to write home about. But I also say that as a non-tobacco smoker. So I don't know from a uh just to look at that shelf. There's lots of color on that shelf. Well, so so okay, no, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

Look at the ones that we that you case in point because because a Cornell and Dale does great marketing. This is the exhausted rooster, okay? Exhausted rooster. What do you think? A tired rooster. Look at this really close, Nick, and tell me what you see.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Well, I remember looking at this, yeah. It's it's a bunch of chickens around, so a bunch of hens around a house, and he is laying on a pillow quite exhausted. Yeah, quite exhausted.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

And what does that lead you to believe? He's had a fun evening, and it's drawn perfectly, like that is good marketing and around a great name. This is such good tobacco name, uh how old is this guy?

SPEAKER_01 30:25

The one that Steve had, like the company. It's the same company as that. Yeah, same company. Same company. Okay, so we went to the the pipe and tobacco show, right?

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:35

We found a bunch of old tins there that I think you I picked up a couple of Steve. Or no, you Steve and Ryan, you guys got a few.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Yeah, we we both got some uh what were those? Um The Great Outdoors and Sutliffe. Setlift. There we go.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

So they were from Sutlift, but they had the black label and not a great not a great uh, I don't think not a great but it's a black label with a little bit of stuff, like outdoorsy stuff on it. It was just like a black label with some pictures on it. Is that was that the old style? That looks vintage. Was that no? That that was just the unique to them unique gotcha. So I look at that and I'm like, that's what you should be.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

If you look at my Frog Morton stuff, tell me that's not great tin art. Uh and that's been around. I mean, those are all old tens. You're like, I mean, that's been around since it was like that since like early 2000s or whatever. So there's been good tin art forever. Look at Nightcap.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

Nightcap one of the most um so does marketing play a big role with the iconic.

SPEAKER_03 31:35

This is this was made, yeah, dude. This came out in the 70s. Tell me that's not great tin art. But nightcap, look at that. It doesn't give a poster of that. Yeah, but it's it's the but it's the color of the blue, it's that shade of blue, it's the long pipe, it's the candlestick, it's the hat. Right. This is nightcap. It's the way that it looks, the colors. But when you put that up against blockade runner, blockade runner looks like an old man's just not anything exciting.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

It looks like something my grandpa would pick up, and that's what he would go for.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

Well, and I don't mind plain and I mean you could consider nightcaps pretty plain, but it's just it works with it. I think that what I'm saying, and I think Steve would agree with me, is the tobacco that's in that tin doesn't fit, doesn't fit that label. Okay, it could be so much better. That's my only thing. Okay, but that but what a stupid critique because this tobacco is freaking uh uh a a 15 out of 10. Like it is amazing. Like it's actually a good thing it's underrated because I can buy this and nobody's gonna buy it. You know what I mean? Like, like it's not gonna be like sold out. Like, I I'm surprised this is not more talked about. It's a very good tobacco, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

It really is. It's burning really nicely. The rum finish works really well with it. When I grabbed it out of the tin, it feels so moist, like it's a really light tobacco. And I don't know if it's the just the way they cut it or what, but it's uh the the feel of the tobacco is really nice. Yeah, the color and smell of it is nice, it's burning really well.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

Yeah, it's it's a great one. And what's interesting is it so that comes as a crumble cake, and I kind of rubbed it out. Yeah, uh, I rubbed the whole tin out kind of because it was so easy. What's interesting is it rubs out into almost a shag cut, which is weird for a for a crumble cake. And the reason why, if if you don't know what a crumble cake is, well, the whole point of a flake or a crumble cake or a or a plug or whatever, the idea is you take the tobacco and you press it into a shape. When you do that, what you're doing is you're really very fastly changing the cellular, the the makeup of that thing, right? So I don't know if that's genetic or not, but the the makeup of what it is. So the the the components that makes that what it is changing. When you when you when you change the the cellular like components, that maybe that's what I'm thinking about. When you when you rapidly press something together, that like on a very small, like microscopic level, with that that that heat and that force and that energy, when it makes those things quickly go together, it changes the flavor compounds big time.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Almost like bruising gym. I was about already saying it's the equivalent of bruising gym. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

Exactly. And that change that changes everything, right? So that's why they've learned like, okay, well, we can do this. But then what they do is they cut it into like, say, a flake because it's easier to put in your tobacco. But we've already gotten the benefit of the press there, yeah, right. So you'll get the plugs, which are cool. But if you've ever smoked a plug, you need a knife, like literally a knife to cut that stuff up. Uh, crumble cakes, they they crumble pretty easy, flakes and everything. And there's different, there's different forms. I've had some crumble cakes that do better than others, but this one, the fact that it was pressed, so you get all the benefits of of that. But then you can easily rub it out into almost like a my favorite cut, which is a shag cut. It's even finer than a ribbon cut. That's quite interesting. I don't know how they're doing that because I've had plenty of cakes from Cornell and Deal that don't rub out that well. So I don't know what's going on with that. There's some, like I said, like gaslight's one of them, that seersucker's another one. They're great. But for me, I like to I like to kind of have a finer cut and I'll put them in a coffee grinder and kind of I won't go nuts, but because otherwise I'd be nothing. Yeah, but yeah. I pulse them a little bit because I do want more of a uh of a um you know a smaller cut. Yeah. Um, but there's some people that will take that and like like a fold and stuff, but they'll take a chunk and they'll put it. It's just hard to keep that lit.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

Yeah. So what we're seeing here is two things that taste amazing, they pair together really well, and both of them have crappy marketing. Yeah, you know what? Yes, Steve.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

Yes, they're both really high quality stuff with bad marketing by the only thing Defusky's got going for it on that bottle is the color that they chose for the purple. It's cool. Other than that, it's really not to me.

SPEAKER_01 35:54

It screams island, like it does scream beach, it does scream island because of the crab because of because of the the colors. Like you said, uh so when I first pulled this out, you may even made the comment that you really liked the the label, the simplicity of it, yeah, and the color.

SPEAKER_03 36:09

And the color, oh, I do love the color, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Because you made a comment of like back in our day, purple wasn't really a guy's color, but you really like this. And I agree.

SPEAKER_03 36:17

I couldn't remember if I talked about that on the I think I talked about that on a podcast one time about purple, or maybe it was just at your house. I think it was just but it was around Ryan, maybe that I love the that I love the idea of purple, but it's a royal color. Or we grew up in a we grew up in a time purple is a girl's color or or or something else, yeah, yeah. Yeah, uh and we I we grew up in a a society, like a time, if anybody knows what I'm saying, like in the 90s, where like you couldn't like purple, you couldn't wear purple, you couldn't like and the thing is like even though now that's not the case, there's residual effects. Like, I just cannot own certain things purple. And when I have an opportunity where I can buy something that I feel like would maybe back in the 90s not be considered weird, you know, yeah uh for lack of a but better term. Yeah, um, that's cool, right? So, like, and this is one of those bottles that you could buy and it's got some purple in it, but nobody would be like, that's gay, I guess, is what I'll say. But not that there's anything wrong with that, but we're you know, in the 90s that people would have been like, oh, it's good, you know what I mean? Like, so that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

There's nothing wrong with gay in the literal sense, gay literal sense. Yeah, this is uh for the homosexuals. Uh so that was like their color. Yeah, and and still is kind of, you know. Well, I guess now it's more rainbow, but right, but uh, and so yes, during that 90s, if you were a guy and you had purple on, it could send a message that she that you would.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

People remember used to say, like, you're gay, you know what I mean? Like, wait, that didn't mean like slang. That's so gay, you know. But we nobody says that anymore.

SPEAKER_02 37:58

So now we don't say that anymore. But uh, this purple, he's like, stop, stop, stop, stop, everything out. This purple, though, is is more leaning on uh purple in the biblical sense, the royal purple, yeah, like crown.

SPEAKER_03 38:15

Yeah, this is a this is a color that exudes that, like like royalty or or yeah, but and I guess what I was talking about was like if you could go back in time to the 90s, if you had purple anything, it was good, you know what I mean? But there was some things that maybe you could get away with, right? Like you could have something like that is cool, and nobody's gonna be like that's gay. That they'd be like, that's just cool, you know what I mean? Like, this is one of those bottles that like it's purple, but it would be not made fun of, if that makes sense. Uh, and there wasn't there's not many things, and I'm coming from that time, and I'm a lot of people probably are coming from that time. So, like in my mind, I still can't like purple, right? Although totally can, like, it's just a color. But um, so when I see things that I'm like, I could have that and it's purple, that's cool because I like that. I like purple, I like purple. I should be allowed to like purple, especially nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 39:06

If you're allowed to like purple, I'm allowed to like purple.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

You know what? I'm saying it right now. If I like purple, I like it, I don't like it.

SPEAKER_03 39:12

But I think mentally I'm like, uh, yeah, you know, like there's those still part of me that's like I can't have that. You know, I think I talked about knives. There's a lot of knives coming out because I'm a big knife guy. There's knives coming out that are purple or have purple accents, and I'm like, that's so cool, but can I have a purple knife? Probably not, you know what I mean? But I I can, but yeah, like I I can't, you know what I mean? But there every now and then there's something that comes out. I'm like, that's just the right shade of purple, or that's in the right spot. Then I'm like, that would be fine. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Are you wearing a purple tie in that picture?

SPEAKER_03 39:42

No, that it's funny that you say it. No, Bob, Bob's shirt in that picture is is awfully close to purple, but mine's pretty red.

SPEAKER_02 39:50

If you Steve can see better there, there's also an age difference there because purple was a popular color for men in the like the 70s and 80s. And so, yeah, so like that times change. And it means different things to different ages.

SPEAKER_03 40:04

In that photo, I look like a giant. Have you ever noticed that? Because they're on a step. You don't know that notice that, Steve, but everybody in the back row there, they're on a quite a high step. And I look like a freaking giant, don't I? Because I'm not on a step. I'm like sold out of those group of cages. I don't know where I don't know where you were at.

SPEAKER_01 40:23

You were doing something. I I will I wasn't I was part, I was part of the family, but not part of the family just yet. That's when you guys got engaged. That was the night we got engaged. Yeah. Okay. That was the night you guys engaged. Which I don't know. That was the night. Was I with Mary at that time when you guys got engaged? You had been dating. When did you guys get engaged?

SPEAKER_03 40:41

We weren't dated. We were engaged for a couple years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Were you engaged before Bethel? No. Mary before Mary went to Bethel? No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Were you engaged sophomore year of our sophomore year? So that would have been 2012? 2012.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

2012? Well, let me see. I started in 08. Gosh, that's weird. 08, 09. No, probably 2010.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

So you guys were engaged before Mary and I even met. You were probably really?

SPEAKER_03 41:07

Wow, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

I think, I think you guys, well.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

Maybe. This would have been this would have been not when you would have been welcome in a family photo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

Well, this would have been this might have been Tony the Pony. Maybe. That might have been Tony the Pony.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Is that an ex-boyfriend?

SPEAKER_01 41:22

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

That's a long, that's a long story.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

He was nicknamed Tony the Pony. Yes. Sure. Yeah. By Bob. Yes, by Bob. You need to clarify that. And I think nothing more needs to be said at that point. Yeah. So that might have been before Mary and I released. In that photo. Yeah. Doesn't feel like that long ago. I remember you guys telling me stories about this, but I wasn't there.

SPEAKER_03 41:46

You must not have been there. Yeah. I can't remember if uh yeah, I don't know. I just feel like uh it wasn't that long ago, but maybe it was.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

But speaking of uh purple, I think I figured out what this uh this picture is that's not books on the side of this. What is it? I think it's the post to a dock.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

Oh a wooden post. Yeah, that actually makes a dock. Okay, that does make sense.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Bring it back to work.

unknown 42:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:12

You don't purple? Talking about low county or low country or whatever things. What does that even mean? Low country. It's the low country.

SPEAKER_02 42:23

It's it's uh a section of low country. Well, there is because there's country and then there's low country, yeah. It's a section of South Carolina that's that's elevation-wise, it's low country. It's it's a bayou bayou-esque kind of before you get to the mountains of South Carolina.

SPEAKER_03 42:40

Like Louisiana.

SPEAKER_02 42:41

And so it's the it's like the the valley below the mountains, the low country.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

Louisiana is low country. You ever heard of a low country boil? Like a shrimp boil, like a crawfish boil.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

I've heard of crawfish and shrimp boils, but not low country.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

That's low country boil.

SPEAKER_01 42:54

Is there is sorry, is there shrimp or crab boil that's not low? Yeah, it's east coast, Maine. That's lobster.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

They have other things, they got they got all the seafoods up there. Crabs up there, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:07

So and some in the water. Is that so? That's not traditional. So is there traditional, then low?

SPEAKER_03 43:12

I think there's just there's just regular and then there's low.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Like in this case, it's traditional necessarily, because I think the low country version is probably the first one. I bet that would be considered the traditional version.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

That would be the traditional. Yeah, you bet your sweet bottom dollar, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

What why is why is that low country? Because it's lower than the regular country.

SPEAKER_03 43:31

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 43:33

It's the base of the mountain. Is it a whole different kind of like culture?

SPEAKER_03 43:36

I think I think there is a you got country, you've got redneck, you got hill people. These are all yeah, you got hill people and low country people. Yeah, there's you got low country, it's like even people, even in three elevation levels.

SPEAKER_02 43:48

Even in Louisiana.

SPEAKER_03 43:49

In Louisiana, you got like you got Cajun, you got Creole, right? Yeah. Cajun Creole, you got like, I don't know what the hell. Like there Other things going on, and so and then we're mixing in French, yeah. You French, yeah, French Creole, but like they've been in the that area for so long, it's a whole nother thing, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Like it's a combination of French and hillbilly, it's a weird combo.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

You've ever heard like somebody with a super thick, like Louisiana accent, like Creole accent, like you can't understand. Or they might as well be speaking Russian or French.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

They're speaking French, basically.

SPEAKER_03 44:24

They're speaking a uh a kind of a bastardized version of French version of uh yeah, which actually, did you know a low country belly? Did you know belly that based on uh all this there was all this this big study or whatever? But basically, this this lady went the world over, figured out different dialects and stuff of English. Did you know the closest thing to legitimate English, like legitimate, like old school, like we're speaking English? Yeah, the closest accent to legitimate English is a southern accent. That's crazy. To to leg what is legitimate English? So, like if you were to go to Germany and you spoke perfect Deutsch, perfect Deutsch, now there's like Swabish, like the South Deutsch, uh, which is like an accent of Deutsch. So, like, think of like Southern accent for English. There's different accents in Germany, but if you were to speak perfect English, whatever that would be, or if you were to go to France and you speak perfect French. So quintessential, the quintessential most unbastardized version of the language, right? Which is funny because it's basically it's what people in England would have sounded like in like the 1200s. But basically, yeah, that's exactly the way they put it, Steve. But basically, so what they're saying is we think country the people that speak with a country accent are stupid, right? Most people do.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

I don't know if I really think they're stupid.

SPEAKER_02 45:45

Well, they sound it though. If we have a doctor that wants to do surgery on you, is that they say, Well, I suppose we gotta get in there and do this. It's like, I think I might want a different doctor.

SPEAKER_01 45:57

We should go some rooms.

SPEAKER_03 45:58

Listen, when I went up and I ordered a sandwich from uh, you know, call in college from the the farthest north I've ever been in my life, and I ordered maters and and and whatever else on it, and they made me feel stupid. And I'm I don't and I don't sound like I have because I worked hard not to have a southern accent. I I don't have one anymore, but I probably have like a weird accent at this point because it's like a mix of things. It sounds normal to me. Exactly. I've worked hard at this, but I think most people in America would consider a southern accent to be more of a simple person accent. But what they're saying is the southern accent is the closest thing to the real English language, so actually the northern accent and and all that other is more the bastard bastardized version. Isn't that interesting? That is interesting, you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

It's because we got closer to Canada, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:47

You yeah, you don't you wouldn't think like how yin's doing, you know what I mean? To be like, that's the way we're supposed to speak. Yeah, but that's what apparently that's what it is. So this lady spent her like 70 years figuring that out. And then was she from the south? No, I don't think she was.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

From England, actually, probably she was probably from she's probably from from the UK.

SPEAKER_01 47:06

Well, they're they're pretentious anyhow.

SPEAKER_03 47:07

So they're pretentious. They're probably just the way that they talk, man. They they make people that with a southern accent sound like they can't speak to a lick.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

You know what? I think I figured out if she's from England, she's probably just upset the Northeast dumped all the tea, so we get farther south. Right, right. That's the true, those are the good ones.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Well, they did like the south because they would like us to break apart so they can beat us again.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

Yeah, but going all the way back to low uh I was gonna say there is a pipe tobacco company. I don't is it Moonshine or there's one uh I can't remember the name of it, but they have a low uh country pipe tobacco line, a line. And the one's like a sweet tea and this, that, and the other. But it says it looks like that. It's made it comes in jars, like mason jars, and it says like low country uh pipe tobacco, or what? I was like, that's kind of cool. I thought it's cool, yeah. I've never smoked any of it, but I was like, that's kind of a cool interesting design or whatever. But it kind of goes along with this aesthetic.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

So in this sense, is low country a flavor, or is low country just a style?

SPEAKER_03 48:13

You've got you got Tex, you got Texas, like Tex-Mex, whatever you want to call it. Right. You got Middle Middle Eastern.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

I think it's it's a it is a tradition, it is a uh type of people that that's you got your southwest people, you got your east coast people, you got your west coast people, you got your low country people, right?

SPEAKER_01 48:31

So does this bottle fit the low country people?

SPEAKER_03 48:35

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

Island islandy is pretty low country, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:38

Yeah, but islandy and the and and buying like that is is all kind of dude. Uh the um that show that I think I talked about already once out of but they're you know, they're they're running around on those swamp boats, whatever you call those things with the big fan on the back. You know what I'm talking about? Like yeah, the fan boats. That is low country, dude. Like they are like low country people, like they're definitely using a pinch of skull tobacco and sitting around a campfire with some cheap beers, you know what I mean? Like, what's wrong with that? There's nothing wrong with that. That's how I grew up a part of my life, you know what I mean? There's nothing wrong. I kind of like it, but um, but it is low country, and they take pride in that. They're not gonna be offended. Here's the interesting thing people that are not like that will see that that is a down thing, but people from that area will see it as a pride thing. So that right there tells you the difference between, like Steve said, it's a people, it's a type of person. There's rednecks that are very proud of being rednecks, right? Not like funny, like haha, I'm a redneck. They're like, I am a redneck, you know what I mean? I don't get that. I've never been a redneck, I've been around rednecks, I've been country, I've been southern, I've been probably low country, you know what I mean? I've never been a redneck, but I've been around rednecks. I wouldn't ever call myself a redneck, but there's people that are proud of being a redneck, you know.

SPEAKER_01 49:56

Would you say that there's a possibility they put low country on the bottle as a pride aspect?

SPEAKER_02 50:02

Why not? Yeah. Yeah, I think I think Defusky Island and South Carolina and the the parts of South Carolina that are not in the mountains are proud of the area that they're from, and they're from the low country.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Dude, if if you're uh from an island that is A called Defusky, right? And B is five miles long and two and a half miles wide, yeah, you're either proud of it or you're not gonna say anything at all. There's you know what I mean? You're so damn small. Like, what do you like? I think uh Disneyland is probably bigger than Defusky.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

For sure it is, yeah. So that makes me believe and wonder even more that this is not theirs.

SPEAKER_02 50:46

Well, again, though, if it's if it's if it's Jimmy Redd, that's also part of low country. They should just embrace that.

SPEAKER_01 50:54

It's low country bourbon, dude. The idea being if if low if you're if you put low country on the bottle as a possible pride aspect, wouldn't you want to say this is yours if you're proud of what it is?

SPEAKER_03 51:08

Yeah, unless your marketer failed you. You would want to say that it's from your area, so not that it's yours or not.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

You made it or somebody else made it something, but you would want to make sure that they know this came from area.

SPEAKER_03 51:21

I think they're unaware of this important fact. I think if somebody were to explain it to them, if we if if the Fosky ever listens to this, they might be like, Yeah, that's yeah, you make some bad parts. This is not a bourbon company, so but they don't know.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

It might not give a definition. Yeah. So, but either way, I'm impressed with the liquid. I think the liquid turned out pretty good. It's good. Yeah, I like it. I I kind of I do like the price.

SPEAKER_03 51:46

I was gonna say, what would you guys pay for this?

SPEAKER_02 51:48

Again, no age statement, no, and no actual like we're made here, there, I mean, you do know it's it's a small company or whatever, whether they make it or not, it's it's gonna be kind of touristy. Yeah, it's gonna be touristy, but I'm uh I'm like 50. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:05

I bet this goes for 60 bucks. Yeah, it's a 40 bottle.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

My guess is it's about 60, but I I I feel confident and comfortable at 50.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

So I don't remember the exact bottle price, but what can what I can tell you is they sell, they uh there was a sell it online, uh 40 uh 90 proof, so 45% at 45 bucks. Well, that's great. This is 116, 115. So I'm going to say this was probably 8090. Words.

SPEAKER_03 52:38

That's my other stuff.

SPEAKER_01 52:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

They're really interesting. Are those oh, those are rumors? Those are all rums. Wow, their rum labels are super cool.

SPEAKER_02 52:48

What the hell? They're doing great on rum. And honestly, if you look at this bottle, it is kind of a rumeling from China.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

That's like from like Hawaii. I was just looking to see if I could find a price of it.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

The only one I can find was a $45 one that was uh 90 proof.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

So with this being 116, 115, I'm gonna assume dude, their their artwork on other stuff looks like a local island island artist. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever read? I think I've talked about it, but Doom A Key by Stephen King. I've talked to him about it. It's my favorite Stephen King novel. No, most people don't know it, and it's a full-fledged, it's not a short story, it's a full novel. It's the best thing, in my opinion, Stephen King's ever written, and he's written some amazing things, so that's kind of high praise. But it's about this guy, this this local artist. Well, kind of it, but it basically this guy paints on an island, but there's a lot more to it. But uh, it just that just kind of reminds me of that vibe. So cool. Like, like the I because island artwork is different from other artwork or whatever. But buy Spirits Online. Let's see if they have a price for this.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

That's what I looked at. We could look at a casting look. I I did Indiana because I didn't think it would sell in Ohio, but we'll see. I'm just gonna try Ohio.

SPEAKER_03 54:09

Wow, you thought our label was bad. Have you seen that label?

SPEAKER_01 54:12

I did. What is that?

SPEAKER_03 54:14

That's creepy, dude. I don't know about that. Okay, Defuski Island Distillery, Low County Bourbon Whiskey.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

And that's what's the proof on that guy? I think it was 45, what I saw. 45%.

SPEAKER_03 54:27

Yeah, this is uh 40%. Yeah, 40%.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

So even less. So 80%.

SPEAKER_03 54:31

$80, $45.

SPEAKER_01 54:32

Yeah. So I would assume this would probably be $80, $90. It's almost a little bit more.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Is this not something that they put out all the time? Is this a more dispatch proof? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

This batch proof is one.

SPEAKER_03 54:44

But $45 is not bad. I just for an 80 proof?

SPEAKER_01 54:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:49

$45 for an 80 proof. They were making it themselves. Okay. 100%. What if they weren't? Sourcing, it's kind of like, well, where are they sourcing from? You know, this one's got a wax top. No, that might be plastic. Never mind. That might be plastic. I like that dude. I like that though. It's blue and like turquoise. It's yeah, it's not purple. Yeah. Dude, I mean, if that if I'd have to try it, but I mean, I just I like it. I like everything about it except for their being evasive about where it's made. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

For me, if we were a rum uh podcast, we would be after these guys for sponsorships and stuff. Like we would want to connect with them. We would want to because they seem to be doing that.

SPEAKER_03 55:28

I want to try their rum stuff just for that. Not a big rum guy, but I think I'd try their rum. I Steve, have you had a lot of rum? I've been resaking it very little bit.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

Yeah. I've I I maybe no rum. Uh uh other than like Captain Morgan. Like I've had spice rums.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

Listen, if we get some pool full like strength rum. Oh, I've got some. It's it's that's still like I mean, that's whiskey. You know what I mean? Technically, I mean it's not, but it's sort of yeah. It's it's in the realm. It's it's in the realm, you know what I mean? It's a spirit, it's it's a spirit there. And we've never done like podcasts on vodka or anything like that. No, no, we could we could maybe do some on rum.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

Can you imagine a podcast on vodka? Like, how many episodes are you gonna get in? It tastes like vodka, yeah. Two minutes, we're done.

SPEAKER_03 56:11

This tastes like it's been distilled 82 times. 82 times, yeah. Good job, Skullhead. 84 would have been too much. Good work. Yeah, I we've never done we all and we're the whiskey chasers, so we don't really do non-risk things.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

Maybe a foolproof spirit, maybe maybe all three of us like gin, and so we could maybe do a barrel-aged gin as a way around that. We have we could do some barrel-aged rum rums, you know, as a way of like bringing in whiskeys. Yeah, we don't yeah, we do rum finishes, we do tequila finishes. I don't know if tequila finishes and barrels at all or not, but you know, you could stick that and you're in yeho and smoke it. Extra in yeho, yeah. Uh, but yeah, so like I'd be open to the idea of trying not a whiskey as a series, just to kind of see what what's out there in the spirits in the in the aged spirits world.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

We should do it for like uh January, right? As a new year's resolution, we're gonna spirits. We're gonna try some new things. One month of spirits, one month of spirits.

SPEAKER_03 57:20

You know what we could do? Well, tell us we could do it around Christmas and talk about the spirits of future, present, and past.

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah, there we go. Which one is which one is future? Would that be the vodka? It's the unage. I'll tell you what, it'd be unage.

SPEAKER_03 57:38

The spirit of the future is tequila. Me and Nick talked about that. That's supposedly the up and coming thing. So you guys have the past would be vodka. The past would maybe be vodka, and the presence maybe gin.

SPEAKER_01 57:50

Jinn and no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 57:53

The past is gin for sure. That's an old world. I think the present might be rum. Oh and the future could be tequila. Yeah, okay, okay. And then Christmas Day he returns to God's place, the whiskey. Yeah. Wine? No, no, it's Christmas Day. The dream's over, the nightmare is over. Next year's whiskey. Things are back. He's out there screaming out the window. I'm back, I'm back. I only traveled one night. That's not a bad idea.

SPEAKER_01 58:22

It's not, it's not terrible. That's not bad. Something to think about. Thank goodness there's no vodka involved.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

That would be I think you gotta leave the vodka.

SPEAKER_01 58:30

I'm pretty confident leaving vodka away.

SPEAKER_03 58:32

I'd probably do like five vodkas in a one and it'd still be nothing. And that was all we had to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

That's that. That was a five-minute episode. You know what though? The vodka does a lot of flavorings and stuff. Wonder if they make like a bourbon-flavored vodka. Wonder what that would taste like.

SPEAKER_01 58:46

There is a uh neutral brain spirits. There's a bourbon-aged vodka that uh Middle West Spirits does. A bourbon-aged it's vanilla-flavored bourbon-aged vodka.

SPEAKER_03 58:57

That's actually actually not barrel-aged, I should realize. We've had other like vodka iterations that are fine. Yeah, if you do flavorings, like yeah, you can get some good ones.

SPEAKER_02 59:08

Because I mean, that's what you're dealing with. Yeah, you're dealing with that.

SPEAKER_03 59:11

But you take those and you still mix them. I don't know. Anybody that's drinking a straight vodka anything.

SPEAKER_01 59:16

Well, if you are, Russians only.

SPEAKER_03 59:18

I there there's been a time or two I've had some straight vodka. And I mean, and basically, what the martinis I like are what are those?

SPEAKER_02 59:25

What are those? Yeah, I mean, they look at vermouth.

SPEAKER_03 59:28

Just look at the just look at the vermouth, and that's about it. But it's chilled vodka. But and I'm fine with that, but that's a whole different thing. That's a cocktail. That's a whole cocktail.

SPEAKER_02 59:38

It's in a martini glass.

SPEAKER_03 59:39

It's in a fancy glass, and I might have a garnish or two. Like there's an olive on it.

SPEAKER_01 59:44

There's an olive that I eat before.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

There is nothing wrong with straight vibe. Okay, but that's a that's a conversation for a different time.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

All right, so possible series in the future of some spirits that are not whiskies. And then yeah, and we can kind of compare the the industries a little bit. Uh so yeah, let us know if that's something you might be interested in. Chris, let us know. So Chris is on board.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Yeah. I'm on board.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

Hey, if you got something, I'll drink it. And I'll and I will talk about it. If you guys are, choose a text, let us know. Please do. Um, but otherwise, uh, you guys have a great evening, and we'll uh come back next week.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:20

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:26

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